For 5 years I had been daisy-chaining motion sensors on my commercial installs in downtown Portland, and they were always tripping false alarms. Last week a building manager showed me his old system using parallel wiring with a common resistor, and the false alarms stopped completely. Any other installers run into this issue with their motion setups?
Talked to a new guy last week who swore wireless was the future, but after helping him troubleshoot three dead sensors in a single afternoon I told him I'd take running a few extra wires over swapping batteries every six months any day.
He said just put them where a burglar would naturally step, not on every single window, and my false alarm rate dropped from 3 a month to zero after I changed my approach last spring - anyone else get advice that made you strip down your installs?
Ngl I used to just run wires however was fastest until a homeowner pointed out a bundle looked like spaghetti behind their panel. Now I spend an extra 15 minutes per job using zip ties and conduit and it actually looks professional.
Spent $180 on a Klein Tools VDV500-820 after frying my third $30 unit on a commercial job. Thing paid for itself day one when I found a break in a buried trunk line in under 10 minutes instead of an hour. Anybody else shell out for pricier test gear and wonder why they waited so long?
I had three DSC panels in a row go belly up during firmware updates last Thursday. First one froze at 23% and just sat there blinking at me for 20 minutes. Second one gave me a error code I've never seen before after I cycled power. Third one actually finished the update but then wouldn't register any zones. Took me till almost 7 PM to get them all sorted out with tech support on hold. Has anyone else had a run of bad luck with firmware updates on those newer panels?
I was doing a final test on a Vista 21iP I installed last week in a house out in Elmhurst. Everything tested fine before I left, but when I came back for the walkthrough the damn thing wouldn't even power on. No beeps, no lights, nothing. Checked the transformer, checked the battery, all good. Had to pull the whole panel and swap it with a spare I keep in my truck. Took me two hours to reprogram and rewire everything. Has anyone else had a Honeywell panel just crap out with no warning like that?
I was working a residential install in an attic during a heatwave, dude must have been 70 years old. He showed up to check my work and saw I had the backup battery terminals cranked down with a screwdriver. Told me I was asking for trouble, that the vibration from the alarm horn would loosen them over time and I'd get false signals. I shrugged it off, thought he was just old school. Fast forward to last spring, I'm getting a call from a customer every Tuesday night at 6 PM their alarm goes off. Drove out there three times, replaced sensors, checked wiring, finally noticed the battery terminals were barely making contact. Had to eat the service call cost on two of those visits. That guy was right. Who else has gotten advice from an older installer that turned out to be the real deal?
Had a call back on a system I installed back in June. The homeowner kept complaining about false alarms from sunlight hitting the motion sensor. I mounted it like I always do, by the front door, which faces west. After driving 45 minutes back out there to relocate the sensor, I realized I should have put it in the hallway corner instead. That corner stays shaded all afternoon and solves the problem completely. Now I ask every customer about sun exposure before I drill anything. Has anyone else found better spots for motion detectors that avoid those afternoon sun issues?
I was putting them at 8 feet like the manual said, but kept getting false alarms from HVAC vents. A senior installer walked by my site in Phoenix last Tuesday and asked if I ever read the actual pattern diagram on the box. Anyone else make this dumb mistake or just me?
I kept getting callbacks on a job in Austin where the customer's dog kept setting off the contact sensor on a sliding door. Tried adjusting the gap and even swapping the magnet but nothing worked. Anyone else had luck just putting the sensor on the frame instead of the door itself?
I just finished a job at a 4-story apartment building downtown where the property manager insisted on a Honeywell Vista 250. Everyone here swears by them, but it took me 3 extra hours to program the zones because of the older firmware. The wiring was fine, but the panel kept freezing on the setup menu. I get that they have a loyal following, but for a new install this year, why not go with something that has a modern interface? The tech support from the supplier here in Seattle took 45 minutes just to pick up. Am I the only one who thinks these panels are overrated for the price?
Had a day last month where I installed three systems without any hiccups. First house was a straight shot through the attic, no crawlspace wrestling. Second job had the panel box right where the home run landed, took maybe 20 minutes to wire up. Third one the customer actually had their wifi password written down and ready. Felt like I was in some kind of installer dream. Anyone else ever get those random golden days that make you forget all the bad ones?
Tbh I fought against wireless for years. Kept telling customers hardwired was the only way to go. Then last month I had a job in a historic district row house where running wire was basically impossible. Old plaster walls, no attic access, the whole deal. I caved and tried those Honeywell 5800 series wireless contacts. Set them up in about 2 hours total instead of the 2 days I budgeted. They've been solid for 3 weeks now with zero false alarms. Has anyone else had a project that finally made you switch your mind on something?
I spent last Tuesday swapping out a older hardwired system on a 4000 square foot ranch with concrete block walls. My usual go-to is wireless for the speed, but I decided to run new wires through the attic instead. Every zone came in clean and the panel didn't drop a single sensor during the whole day. Has anyone else found that hardwired is way more reliable when you're dealing with thick walls and long runs?
I was out in Elmwood last Tuesday installing a hardwired panel when my dispatch came through about a tripped motion sensor at a house I serviced two weeks ago. Turned out the homeowner's new cat figured out how to jump on the kitchen counter right in front of the sensor, and now I'm wondering if anyone else has swapped to pet-friendly sensors after getting burned by stuff like this.
Took a service call last month in Austin where the lady kept getting false alarms every time the HVAC kicked on. Her old installer had the motion sensor mounted right above a floor register and the air blowing made the curtain move. I moved it 6 feet down the wall to a stud near the corner and used a DSC PG9128 pet immune sensor instead of the cheap one. Has anyone else had to deal with airflow triggering false trips on residential jobs?
I used to swear by hardwired everything. Took a job at a warehouse downtown and spent 3 days running conduit through a drop ceiling that had asbestos. Felt like I dodged a bullet but the client was pissed about the mess. Bought some wireless 2GIG sensors on a whim and finished the next job in 6 hours. Never looked back. Has anyone else hit a wall with hardwired and just gave up?
Guy said his 80 year old mom couldn't reach the keypad, so I dropped it to 3 feet off the ground on the next 4 jobs. Ended up with a service tech yelling at me for putting it right where a kid could grab it - anyone else get conflicting feedback like that?
I was grabbing some resistors at ADI last Tuesday and this older guy saw me looking at a bunch of parts. He asked where I put panels and I said basement utility room like everyone. He said no way, put it in a hallway closet near the front door where the wifi reaches better and you can hear the keypad from the bedroom. Then he walked me through how he started doing that after 20 years of callbacks for false alarms in basements with no signal. Made me realize I have been making extra work for myself this whole time. Anyone else change up their go-to panel spot after a random conversation?
I was installing a wireless panel in a basement in St. Paul last Tuesday and the client swore the old hardwired system was dead. Two hours in, I touched a sensor wire and got a jolt that knocked me off my ladder. Turns out some DIY hack had spliced 110v into the alarm wire years ago. Has anyone else run into buried live wires like that?
I was installing a new panel in a 1970s house outside Cleveland last Wednesday and the homeowner comes in laughing. She said her old alarm used to trigger at 3am every night until she moved a floor lamp away from the motion sensor. Turns out the lamp's heat from the bulb was setting it off, not any ghost. Made me check placement way more carefully on every job now. Has anyone else run into weird false alarm causes that aren't in the manual?
I had this older house in Cincinnati where running wires through the walls was going to be a nightmare with all that knob and tube still in there. Decided to go with a Qolsys IQ system instead of my usual DSC hardwired setup. Took me about 4 hours to get everything programmed and mounted versus probably 2 full days of fishing wires. Customer was happy with how clean it looked but I am still wondering if the wireless sensors will hold up as well long term. Has anyone else swapped to wireless for a tough retrofit and regretted it down the road?