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PSA: People always talk about Rome falling, but I believe Ming China closing off was a bigger deal

In my experience, if the Ming kept trading openly, world history might look totally different, but that's just my two cents.
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the_troy
the_troy1d ago
Wait yeah, that's a really good point. Like, Portugal was already figuring out how to sail around Africa on their own around that same time. Even if the Ming kept their fleet, other countries were gonna start exploring and trading anyway. It wasn't just one door closing, it was a bunch of other windows opening up all over the place. Big history is never just about one thing going wrong.
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the_alice
the_alice1d ago
In 1433, the Ming court stopped Zheng He's big treasure fleet trips. But saying this was worse than Rome falling ignores how Europe was already changing on its own. The Silk Road kept going for a long time after, and trade with China never really stopped. Rome's collapse messed up whole societies for centuries, while Ming policy just slowed things down a bit. We give too much credit to one decision when big history has many causes.
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